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  How long can this cult remain with only kids becoming members?

  by Crazyguy in

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  it's become clear that very few from outside the religion are joining anymore.

  if only the kids of the people that are already in are the one replacing the members as they die off and 50% let's say of the kids leave then how long can they realistically last before the downturn becomes obvious?.

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  stan livedeath

  the watchtower needs to realise its greatest human resource--are the young females !. they are the ones who trap the young males into marriage--in order to have sex. left to their own inclinations most young single males will go elsewhere for it--and never return.
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  My wonderful son

  by KateWild in

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  hey everyone,.

  for those of you who don't know my story.

  i had a messy divorce i lost custody of my son in 2011 age 9yrs after four years of court battles to get him back i couldn't do anymore.. yesterday my wonderful son had an upsetting day as our contact was cancelled.

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  stan livedeath

  i fully understand your frustration with our legal system, Kate.

  i know my son wasted £1000's on legal costs fighting for access to his 2 kids. mostly to no avail.

  if you turn up for your access visit--and theyve gone out--nothing much you can do about it. i had enough of it 30 years ago.
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  Should I stay married to my JW wife

  by gatorguy in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  me and my wife were at the beach the other day and i finally told her, i don't think i believe in god anymore.

  i fessed up to the fact that it started with me doubting some jw beliefs and then it just led me to this point where i don't even believe in god.

  i wouldn't say that i even have a negative view towards jw's or religion in general.

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  stan livedeath

  I think I'd just lay it all out on the table for her and see how the chips fall. She will then have the choice of you or the cult and the decision may be made for you.

  
  

  my thoughts exactly.

  
  

  i married my 3rd generation born in wife when i was 20. i decided i'd had enough religion by the time i was 23. the marriage lingered for another 10 years and produced 3 kids. i then--stupidly--got involved in an affaire and wifey divorced me " on scriptural grounds" almost before my feet were back on the ground. she had wanted out of the marriage for years !.
  
  
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  For those who are still in... What do you do about field service?

  by Wait For It in

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  2. friends

  for those of you who are still in because of family circumstances, what do you do about field service?

  do you still go regularly, sporadically or not at all?.

  if you do still go, how do you manage?

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  stan livedeath

  @ wait for it.....why would you be d/f for not going door knocking? Just decline any offer to take you. And if the elders want to meet with you...just refer them to your husband..as you head. Let him take all the pressure...and if he wants to pass it on to you..well I,m sure you can think of ways to win him over.
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  For those who are still in... What do you do about field service?

  by Wait For It in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for those of you who are still in because of family circumstances, what do you do about field service?

  do you still go regularly, sporadically or not at all?.

  if you do still go, how do you manage?

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  stan livedeath

  MarkofCane--i reached that point when i was aged 23. but i rarely attended for the next 10 years--and only then if my born in wife went into full on nag mode. but--then we divorced--and ive been totally free ever since.

  i'm 68 now !
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  For those who are still in... What do you do about field service?

  by Wait For It in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for those of you who are still in because of family circumstances, what do you do about field service?

  do you still go regularly, sporadically or not at all?.

  if you do still go, how do you manage?

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  stan livedeath

  What a farce!

  Just stop faking it. In the case of the OP....what's the worst that can happen?
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  So are the GB now saying that they are NOT the "faithful and discreet slave"?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so can someone clarify this please?.

  the claim has been made that the gb is the faithful and discreet slave.

  especially was this highlighted during the agm (when the silver bible was released).. but are they now saying that this "appointment" isn't happening until the "great tribulation"?.

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  stan livedeath

  "WT 7/13

  19 In review, what have we learned? In the beginning of this article, we raised three “when” questions. We first considered that the great tribulation did not begin in 1914 but will start when the United Nations attacks Babylon the Great."

  
  

  perfect.---so the whole future prophecy from the watchtower hinges on something the have absolutely no control over--either the timing or the outcome---or even whether it will ever take place. so if the UN never attacks babylon the great--then the great tribulation will never begin. i like it lol.
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  JWs exist because...

  by oldskool in

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  2. friends

  one sentence answers only.. here's mine:.

  jws exist because people want an escape from the modern world and are willing to give up intellectual freedom to get it..

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  stan livedeath

  JW,s exist because you CAN fool some of the people all of the time.
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  Update on My Journey: 8 Years After the End of Watchtower Control

  by passwordprotected in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i last updated you guys almost 2 years ago here.. i thought i'd post an update.. the peace i discovered having decided to let the angst, worry and fear over what to believe is as strong as ever, although i am keeping more abreast of what jw.org (formerly known as wtbts) is up to, and i never cease to be shocked and surprised.. as my last post mentioned, i split from the jw girl i married in 1993 and both of us have moved on with new partners that better fit who we are as grown adults, rather than the children we were 23 years ago.. my partner has no religious background whatsoever, although her children are being raised as catholics by their father.

  hearing her kids openly doubt, question and even ridicule the religion is heartwarming and exactly the way it should be.. as for my children, they continue to be a never-ending stream of joy and pride.. my oldest son is now 16, having been only 8 years old when we left the watchtower.

  he had big anxiety problems for a while afterwards, worrying about armageddon etc.

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  stan livedeath

  hi there from a fellow Brit--although opposite end of the country.
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  Help - I'm going to be conducting the watchtower study

  by Saltheart Foamfollower in

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  2. beliefs

  it looks like i'm going to have to take the watchtower study for a while so i thought i'd seek help.. i wont be outing myself or stating anything too controversial, but so far i have come up with the following tactics : 1) ask questions which will get people thinking even if it is about something insignificant - developing a questioning mind is the key to discovering ttat as far as i am concerned.

  2) highlight any extreme points so that some might realise they are extreme.

  3) highlight any good points - helping others in need for example - just because it is the right thing to do.. if anyone has any general comments which could help, please post them here.

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  stan livedeath

  try asking the question for the next paragraph--see if anyone notices